League Of Augsburg - Fighting Talk

Thanks Ray, I did know about that site it has some interesting information on it.
Cheers
Dave

HI Guys new to forum but I noticed a number issues on the questions of Jacobite uniforms. Here is what I know:
French clothe was White (grismiel) e.g Lrd Antrims used this as their coat colour but were cuffed red, red trousers, Waistcoat and sock (nickname 'Red Shanks') Clares (O'Brians) Red faced Yellow, Mountcashels (McCarthy) Red faced forest Green with taped button -. Louths Rgt, White faced tawny, Gordon O'Neill Red faced red, Bellews Red faced tawny. French cloth is white but turned grey over time due to environmental conditions such as dirt, sweat, powder and smoke. Hugenot Rgt seem from my sources to be dressed grey faced grey with some cuff colours such as yellow, purple etc. I also notice that the crowns and Jacobite harp are incorect in many of the flags used for the wargaming, the Maid of Ireland emblem is not a Jacobite cypher it is something that comes in post William III. All troops in Jacobite army are armed and equipped French style post siege of Derry, prior to this it is English. Armed with Matchlocks and equipped with Bandoliers throughout. in 1698 there is an image of a corporal in Mountcashels in France armed with a Matchlock and French Cartridge bag(similar to WSS style) but it would seem Matchlocks are standard right up until 1702 in the Irish brigade. Anyway thats my two pence worth I hope it is of assistance to you guys. Forgot to mention the source for the Yellow in O Briens is from an archaic source where the author did not want to admit Irish wore red coats also his main source is a misintepretation of an original manuscript. 'O'Briens clothes were faced yellow but it does list the Regiments with Red Coats and they are there in that list! Also Antrims are said to be in White and Blue again this numpty does not read the sources correctly and produced these in the 1940 cigarette cards also the irish Sword magazine and his ancestors although proven to be incorrect refuse to accept it as being wrong. For example he says the Danish life Guard wore an orange uniform!!!! yet when research was done it is actually Straw coloured with Orange /Tawny facings and clothing. So guys be careful the best sources are Robert Hall and Sean O Brogain for Irish flags and uniforms. Regards Tomás.

Thanks, Tomas (forgive the lack of the accent - I can never find those on the keyboard)!

Oireas wrote: Forgot to mention the source for the Yellow in O Briens is from an archaic source where the author did not want to admit Irish wore red coats also his main source is a misintepretation of an original manuscript. 'O'Briens clothes were faced yellow but it does list the Regiments with Red Coats and they are there in that list! Tomás.

I would be interested to know the source for O'Brien's in red coats as they weren't part of the Irish Army prior to the conflict. I know they wore red coats when they became part of the French army and always assumed that they were issued those from the French who seemed to want their forgein units to be distinctive. The Swiss were also clothed in red and the German units in Blue.
Cheers
Dave

any news of when the blb ireland 1689-1991 will be out.

I'm pretty sure the pike was discarded by 1991

Edward

No timeline on the Ireland book yet - many of the scenarios have been written, but no layout or artwork has been done yet... I haven't seen the manuscript yet, but I think there are probably twenty scenarios. Each will include the context of scenario, a map of the battlefield, orders of battle (and suggestions for adapting the to your collection), and special rules (if any). There will also be an overview on the theater, uniform guides, and anything else we can come up with!

Caught between the proverbial two stools (actually about 5 stools at the moment)
We have 2 very definite books on the stocks, 3 well formed ideas in discussion and along came Warfare Miniatures and buggered everything up. That spawned the flags and them more sculpts and it all got out of control.

We are winning the war but it is rather like 8th Army in North Africa... taking a long time and small steps against fierce resistance!

Stick with us... Clarence and I always get there in the end (although this time we are calling on some help from a few friends)

Hello Barry

Although the thread is BLB2 in Ireland have you considered including Monmouth's Rebellion, The Glorious Revolution and Scotland or do you think they should be covered as a different Sup(s)?

cheers
Edward

I think the plan is to cover all of 1689-91, which will include some of the battles in Scotland and even some 'what if' battles in England (what if James II's army didn't completely collapse in 1689). I don't think we're going back as far as the Monmouth Rebellion (but I could be wrong). I want to include a detailed guide to the armies and make this a source book for the period in addition to the scenarios.

There will DEFINITELY be further scenario books (and if anyone out there wants to write a scenario book for their favorite theater using BLB, contact Barry or me via PM)...