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 Post subject: Got the rules, got some non rules question
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:10 pm 
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So I got the rules today, beutifull book.

I know the game used 18 figure battalions, but mine are 24, so I thought of lots of ways to do this, but then I came upon an idea, and the rules confermed it, just say the unit is 18 strong, ignore the 6 extra figures, they are purley estetic.

Does that sound it's going to work, or is the extra base going to give battalions to much frontage compeard to the ranges of muskets ect.

I don't think so, since the rules let you use many diffrent base sizes.
So my 4.5times 4 bases is 18 cm, while a 3 base unit of 60mm frontage is also 18cm.

My second question is more a historical thing, I'm wondering how to rate certain units.

I'm working on this British brigade
Sir William Clifton's Regiment of Foot
The Welch Regiment of Fusiliers
Sir Edward Dering's Regiment of Foot
Scots Fusiliers
The Earl of Bath's Regiment of Foot
Are any of these known to be worthy of elite statues? or should all be drilled?

I'm also wondering of the french and allies.
My first brigade will be the 3 battalions of De la Reine since this is the queens regiment, should they be elite or is it just a fancy name?

Some units I do think might actualy be elite is the Irish brigade,
Dorrington's Regiment
Clare's Regiment
Lee's Regiment

Should one or more of these be elite?


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 Post subject: Re: Got the rules, got some non rules question
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:50 pm 
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Just my 2 cents.

Dorrington's Regiment Elite, but not the others.

The French only the first six regiments, the Vieux Corps, (oldest regiments) Picarde, Navarre, Champagne, Piemont, Normandie and La Marine could be classified elite and thats subjective. Also possibly some Petits Vieux Corps or the next oldest regiments. Again not all of them and in either case extremeyl subjective.

As for the British, I would go all Raw but I'm a Jacobite and have no use for them :) More seriously I have no information to make a call here. There are other more educated than I in all cases that can throw in their thoughts.

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 Post subject: Re: Got the rules, got some non rules question
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:43 pm 
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Gunfreak,
I use 12 figure units for foot with smaller bases and 4 figure squadron for cavalry. I made a simple ORBAT that tracks hits, etc...so as you say the lack of or extra figures are for looks.
Like any rule set, as long as everyone's units are based the same, shouldn't be a problem.

Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Got the rules, got some non rules question
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:52 am 
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Gunfreak,

I believe your doing a brigade for the WSS and the brigade in question is Brigadier General Archibald Rowe's who was K.I.A. at Blenheim.This was the 1st line (5 btns) to assault Blenheim village under the overall command of Lord Cutts and part of the 20 btn assault force in a 4 line column.
Some of the names of the regiments are wrong for the time of Blenheim i.e. Sir William Clifton's Regiment of Foot, he was only their colonel from their formation in 1685 until the following year 1686.By the time of Blenheim the colonel was Brigadier General Howe.
The Welsh fusiliers would have been known as Ingoldsby's Foot, Sir Edward Dering's Regiment of Foot would have been known as Marlborough's Foot, the Earl of Bath was Sir John Grenville from their formation in 1685 until 1695, at Blenheim they were known as Lord North & Grey's Foot.
All these regiments are drilled and out of all the 14 British infantry battalions and 7 cavalry regiments only Wither's 1st Foot Guard's = Guard, Orkney's 1st Royal Scots (1st & 2nd Btns) & Churchill's Foot = Elite.Everything else including the cavalry and artillery are Drilled.

Hope that help's,

Ray.

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 Post subject: Re: Got the rules, got some non rules question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:44 pm 
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Thanks for the info, I just used this to get the names

http://www.thewaroffice.co.uk/blenheim/


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 Post subject: Re: Got the rules, got some non rules question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:37 pm 
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Hi Gunfreak,

Thanks for posting the link to the OOB, but I'm afraid there's a few mistakes and incorrect names.
The four infantry brigade commanders are correct under Lord Cutts, but one or two regiments seem to be in the wrong brigade i.e. Gauvin regiment is down as being in St.Paul's brigade when in fact they should be in Wilken's Brigade.
If you need any help just ask :wink:

Ray.

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