Nations special rules

[Hobbyworker]

Hi

I have just read the book republic to empire and the only rule specific i can find is the british line inf fires as veterans +D3 and the austrias 6 pund canons suck??

Dont the frech,russian,and prussians get some special rule and why???

[barr7430]

YOU HAVE THE BOOK ALREADY? Your other post this morning said you were trying to buy it in the shop but couldn't find it. We didn't get an order from you so I just wondered how you received it so quickly?

[Friedrich August I.]

YOU HAVE THE BOOK ALREADY? Your other post this morning said you were trying to buy it in the shop but couldn't find it. We didn't get an order from you so I just wondered how you received it so quickly?

Barry, Barry,

You should clean your glasses if you have any...or eventually drink a few more
The question was about the markers not the rule book

Günter

[Hobbyworker]

YOU HAVE THE BOOK ALREADY? Your other post this morning said you were trying to buy it in the shop but couldn't find it. We didn't get an order from you so I just wondered how you received it so quickly?

I said i have read the book not that i have goten the book yet...
the book was a friend of my

[barr7430]

aaah!

[obriendavid]

I have just read the book republic to empire and the only rule specific i can find is the british line inf fires as veterans +D3 and the austrias 6 pund canons suck??
Dont the frech,russian,and prussians get some special rule and why???

Why do you think the French, Russians and Prussians should have special rules?
The rule for British line is to reflect their supposedly superior shooting and is only used provided the British troops are not recruits.
Cheers
Dave

[Duke of Plaza-Toro]

I have to say - if there's one thing that will put me off a set of rules it is excessive use of 'special rules' for particular armies, based on what used to be called "National Characteristics" (Bruce Quarrie’s old Airfix rules anybody?)

I don’t mind the odd tweak here and there to reflect some well established technical or tactical aspect for a particular army but when rule writers get into giving the French attack bonuses for ‘elan’ and Russians morale bonuses for ‘stubbornness’ for example – I usually find something else to play. These types of interpretations are invariably highly subjective, having more to do with the popular mythologising of certain nations rather than any basis in historical fact.

I like RtE just the way it is.

Yours
DPT

[BP]

But what about the Priests?


Bill

[obriendavid]

But what about the Priests?
Bill

They were only scenario specific and had the desired effect.
Although perhaps Barry might add some in for the Spanish at the December weekend.
Cheers
Dave

[barr7430]

Well the question is could a Spanish Padre pray better than a French one??

[obriendavid]

Well the question is could a Spanish Padre pray better than a French one??

I thought the French gave up on religion during the Revolution, did they have a change of mind? Perhaps they must have when Napoleon brought the Pope to Paris for his coronation?
Cheers
Dave

[Hobbyworker]

I think the russians could get a bonus in morale for there stubbornes.
and the french a bonus in attack formation.

[barr7430]

I can't stop people tinkering with the rules.. that is a personal choice but these cliches about stubborn Russians, French elan etc are almost Hollywood in their construction. I have just read through Last Argument of Kings, the 18th Century supplement for Black Powder and it is now going the way of WARHAMMER ANCIENT BATTLES... special rules, very special rules, extra special rules for various armies and even generals. The 'Marlborough' rule is quite astonishing.
When you start to write a special rule for one army you are on the slippery slope of having to write one for every army to:
1. Keep players with each type happy
2. Not offend some nation's pride
3. Balance the special effect of one particular side wth another.

I am totally agains those kinds of conditions otherwise I would have made Scottish Lowland Infantry:

Guard, +8 in the charge, movement bonus if Inn or Tavern within 500 metres.....

[BP]

I think the russians could get a bonus in morale for there stubbornes.
and the french a bonus in attack formation.

All troops get a +1 resolve modifier if they are advancing in column of attack, this will help obviate negative modifiers from casualties and help to initiate charges and to charge home.

Bill

[obriendavid]

I think the russians could get a bonus in morale for there stubbornes.
and the french a bonus in attack formation.

All troops get a +1 resolve modifier if they are advancing in column of attack, this will help obviate negative modifiers from casualties and help to initiate charges and to charge home.

Bill

You beat me to it Bill!
I was going to point out the column of attack modifier which was put in to reflect elan of charging troops but of any nationality not just French.
Cheers
Dave