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Post by Rebel » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:09 pm

Jim,

will leave the wit to the other contributors, but quite simply you have no problem at all, and it does you credit that you thought you might have.

Basically with the exception of the 'standing' units, the Jacobite army was equipped with kit drawn from French depots which was several years out of date, and thus would have given the troops a slightly 'older' appearance.

The 'standing' units such as the Foot Guards (later Dorrington's) would have been equipped with English kit which, given their distance from London, and also the fact that Ireland was a separate military establishment, would also have been past it's sell by date.

As the war progressed any damaged or replaced English kit would have been replaced by French materiel.


Churchill,

with regard to Robert's plates, they are probably as accurate a representation as you'll get, subject - as Barry says - to the invention of a time machine or a 400 year old man turning up. Reason is simply that Robert's research (as Dan Schorr and Iain Stanford will also testify) is exhaustive and, in the case of the French, involved his (and Michel Hanotaux/Yves Romigoux and a number of others) going through the *original* contracts, purchase orders and regimental records in the French archives.

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Post by Churchill » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:42 pm

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Post by Rebel » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:57 pm

Ray,

it's down to bureaucracy and accountability*, which means that the French kept everything recorded and -in the main - filed. For the british the info is out there it's just that you have to dig that deeper. As an example am following up two promising leads on the Jacobites either of which may yield a lot of information or alternately may not. The fact that the chance is there means that I have to knuckle down and follow the trails, dead ends or not...

Laters,


Mike.

* Best example is when Louvois ordered the burning of the Palatinate without Louis' sanction. He was told that he had 72 hours to stop the depredations and that he would be held personally accountable for any reoccurrence. Needless to say, when faced with a very p*ssed off king, Louvois courier made the journey to army headquarters in record time.
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Post by CoffinDodger » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:23 pm

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SPRUNG! - CoffinDodger's painting technique revealed.

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Post by Greystreak » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:10 pm

A great brush for doing "eyes" on 10mm figures, eh Jim? :lol:
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Post by 18th Century Guy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:26 pm

I love it! :lol:
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Post by Churchill » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:29 pm

Ray.
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Post by CoffinDodger » Sat May 07, 2011 9:37 am

Gentlefolk,

The latest addition is a figure for my overall French Commander:

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"Mount up!"

Now I just need a name for him. Any ideas?

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Post by conflans » Sat May 07, 2011 12:25 pm

If you are not serious about your commander's names, "Honore Pamplemousse, Comte de Chenile" would be different. It loosely translates as "Honor Grapefruit, Count of the Doghouse." The name is based on my favorite breakfast fruit and where I spend much of my time at home. Good luck with the naming.
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Post by CoffinDodger » Sat May 07, 2011 12:52 pm

conflans wrote:If you are not serious about your commander's names, "Honore Pamplemousse, Comte de Chenile" would be different. It loosely translates as "Honor Grapefruit, Count of the Doghouse." The name is based on my favorite breakfast fruit and where I spend much of my time at home. Good luck with the naming.
Considering my Napoleonic one is called Jaques St Merde, I love it! :lol:

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Post by Churchill » Sat May 07, 2011 6:19 pm

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Post by dashing blade » Sun May 08, 2011 7:43 am

Mr Dodger!
I shall pretend to be offended :shock: The wife suggested
"Comte d'anspantaloons "
My best effort was "General d'ogsbody"

P.S. I thought you had a beard :?:
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Post by obriendavid » Sun May 08, 2011 5:51 pm

You could just call him 'General Twodogsfucking' :lol:

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Post by CoffinDodger » Sun May 08, 2011 6:47 pm

obriendavid wrote:You could just call him 'General Twodogsfucking' :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

General Jean Foudre or General Deuxchiensbaiser had crossed my mind.

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Post by CoffinDodger » Sat May 14, 2011 8:02 am

I've just settled on Maréchal de France Jaques du Deuxchiensbaiser.

With thanks to Dave O'Brien for the idea.

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