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 Post subject: Re: No colours for the fusiliers?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:25 pm 
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"So I would assume the Welch also had some rag on a pole."

I wouldn't say that round here !!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: No colours for the fusiliers?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:45 pm 
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The Royal Fusiliers certainly had colours from the start.

Barry's got them in the shop...


http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/shop/product-704.html

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 Post subject: Re: No colours for the fusiliers?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:53 pm 
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I was going to say that the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers (ordnance regiment) formed in 1685, and later the 7th Foot, had colours from the start. It consisted of a red cross on a white field, with cannons and other military paraphernalia coming out of the four corners where the arms of the cross intersected.

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 Post subject: Re: No colours for the fusiliers?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:38 pm 
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Ronan the Librarian wrote:
.....of a red cross on a white field, with cannons and other military paraphernalia coming out ....


Sounds like the medic of an Artillery unit.... red cross on a white field... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: No colours for the fusiliers?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:28 pm 
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Russian James wrote:
For the Royal Regiment of Artillery, the guns themselves ARE the colours, it may have been the same for the fusileers as they were originally the artillery train guards...


Ooooohh that's an 18th Century and Victorian fiction. Marlborough's artillery certainly had colours (illustrated in C C P Lawson's work) as did English Civil War artillery so I would guess did everyone in between. BRITISH artillery do not 'lose' their colours until the Regiment is created in 1716. Other nations artillery usually had colours - that was certainly the case in the German States (see the Pengel & Hurt books) and in France, where Artillery regiments still do have colours.


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 Post subject: Re: No colours for the fusiliers?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:31 pm 
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Ronan the Librarian wrote:
I was going to say that the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers (ordnance regiment) formed in 1685, and later the 7th Foot, had colours from the start. It consisted of a red cross on a white field, with cannons and other military paraphernalia coming out of the four corners where the arms of the cross intersected.


Agreed, The Royal Regiment of Fuzileers' colours are illustrated in the 'James II Colour Book' (c1686) in Windsor Royal Library and the Regiment lost at least one colour during the War of the Spanish Succession - illustrated in the 'Triomphes de Louis XIV' in the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.


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