Hi, played our first game last night, and it went quite well, we did however disagree on how many orders it take to make a multi squadron unit move, charge etc.

Does it take one to move all three squadrons or does it require one, on a similar vain does it count as one unit for the purposes of order allowance or three when calculating how many units can be ordered.

Hope both questions are clear, thanks

jon

You have to use an order for each squadron if you want to move/charge with the whole regiment and remember that a regiment can only use the All or nothing charge only once in a battle, after that they operate as seperate squadrons. You also count each squadron when you are trying to work out how many units for orders.
Hope this helps?
Cheers
Dave

Dave,

Don't get me wrong, but I find this very strange and beyond logic really.
Say I've got a regiment of 3 squadrons, the command of which are in the first/front squadron.
At deployment before any movement is made are you saying that they don't deploy in base contact and therefore need a order for each squadron.
Doe's this also mean when declaring a charge, that each squadron needs a charge order.
Let's say the first/front squadron goe's in, but the second squadron fail's it's test to charge home...would this also stop the third squadron from going in and thus the All or Nothing charge as only the first squadron has charged home.
This breaking up of squadrons after the All or Nothing charge is also strange for a number of reasons.
1. Strength in numbers, surely the regiment would stay together and operate as a formation.
2. Morale - If they split up morale drops as they can no longer spread the casualties amongst the regiment.
3. Command - As stated the command is with the first/front squadron so if they split aren't the 2nd and 3rd squadrons going to be out of command
To me if you've got regiments of Horse or Dragoons they should move, fight and test as one for good or bad.

Just my thoughts,

Ray.

hi, that is the line of arguementthat almost brought our game to a halt the other evening, even re-read the rule book and still none the wiser.

jon

Ray,

slightly odd comments and a reinterpretation of the rules. I think perhaps mixing up wargaming command figures and what a squadron regiment actually represents.

Having a flag and an officer figure at the front does not really represent anything. A 3 squadron regiment would have dozens of officers distributed all around the unit issuing orders etc.

ALL OR NOTHING CHARGE represents a coordinated multi squadorn prgressive wave attack over 20 minutes. It only works once because at that time a unit / brigade is fresh.
Regiments /squadrons often split up and operated independently so,

each squadron needs a seperate order to move or charge unless it is using the ALLORNOTHING hence the name ALL OR NOTHING!

Otherwise 3 seperate squadrons COULD NOT CHARGE AT 3 SEPERATE TARGETS as you need line of sight from the front of the base uninterupted to declare a charge anyway. 3 squadrons one behind the other could not do this, they have no LOS or angle to manoeuvre

/edit Looks like Barry hit submit the same time I did.



You may set them up in base to base contact as a Regiment. However you count them as 3 squadrons when determining how many units you have for the Command Allowance



The only way 3 squadrons in base to base contact can declare a charge is the All or Nothing charge. If you want to do this then yes all 2 or 3 or 4 squadrons would need that order. If not then only the lead squadron could declare.
Why is because you counted them in your Order Allowance phase to determine the # of orders to give. If you only gave one order to the 'Regiment' you would have additional orders to use beyond your percentage allowed.



Only one check is made for the entire regiment (2-4 squadrons). If not performing an All or Nothing charge then only the front squadron would be able to declare a charge. The other squadrons could support if the melee lasts the additional rounds.



The Regiment can stay together and move as a cohesive entity, however the actions taken are by individual squadrons.




Command radious only applies to the Army Commander and Brigadiers

I hope that clears it up a little better.

Thanks Barry and especially Joe for that stage-by-stage explaination, that's cleared up a few things.

Cheers,

Ray.

thanks to everyone this now makes alot more sense, thanks for taking the time to help a newcommer.

jon