Thunder on the Danube - 1704

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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Captain of Dragoons » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:50 pm

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Post by obriendavid » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:26 pm

That's a very nice looking force you have there and look forward to seeing more in the new year.
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Belg » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:36 pm

Amazing! Magnificent! BRAVO !
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A question, please:
by informations that I had, the wood of the barrel of the cannon would have been red.
I saw that instead you have painted it blue.
To what source you are referring?
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Churchill » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:04 pm

Ray.
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by jezamonos » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:43 am

Hi Sergio,
I cannot recall the source for the gun carriage colour. I went for the blue/grey based on some comments on a forum and looking at others collections. It also seemed to make sense as that was the colour used by napoleonic times. I also wanted them to be different from my Dutch and French which will be red.
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Churchill » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:16 am

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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Belg » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:34 pm

jezamonos wrote:Hi Sergio,
I cannot recall the source for the gun carriage colour. I went for the blue/grey based on some comments on a forum and looking at others collections. It also seemed to make sense as that was the colour used by napoleonic times. I also wanted them to be different from my Dutch and French which will be red.
He Jezamonos & Churchill,
thank you very much for your clarifications.
While we're on topic, please can you tell me - depending on your informations - what it would be the color for the gun-carriages of the artillery of the Prussians and Danes?
many thanks
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by jezamonos » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:45 pm

Sergio,
Prussians would be dark blue and Danish red I think.
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Belg » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:01 pm

jezamonos wrote:Sergio,
Prussians would be dark blue and Danish red I think.
Many thanks, but......... :lol:
Do You "think", are you not sure? :mrgreen:

Please, it would be possible to know the source of your information? :mrgreen:
I do not want to repeat the mistake (if it were so) already done for the British guns!
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Post by El Cid » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:06 pm

Although this source is a little bit before 1700:

Danish Uniforms, Colours and Standards 1675 - 1679
Olaf Hasselager and Torstein Snorrason
Illustrations - Søren Henriksen
© Hasselager, Snorrason, Henriksen and Schorr December 2000

p.49: The guns and ammunition wagons and carts were painted red with yellow fittings

and: Images of Danish Artillery in the Claus Möinichen paintings show red carriages for the Danish Artillery

to be seen here on the www:

http://www.cybercyde.co.uk/images/danis ... 675-79.pdf

the red Artillery is on page 57



in the article:

DANISH UNIFORMS
1699-1712
Torstein Snorrason
Illustrations and Plates - Søren Henriksen
© Dan Schorr 2008

is also related to the Images of Danish Artillery in the Claus Möinichen paintings
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Belg » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:26 pm

El Cid wrote:Although this source is a little bit before 1700:

Danish Uniforms, Colours and Standards 1675 - 1679
Olaf Hasselager and Torstein Snorrason
Illustrations - Søren Henriksen
© Hasselager, Snorrason, Henriksen and Schorr December 2000

p.49: The guns and ammunition wagons and carts were painted red with yellow fittings

and: Images of Danish Artillery in the Claus Möinichen paintings show red carriages for the Danish Artillery

to be seen here on the www:

http://www.cybercyde.co.uk/images/danis ... 675-79.pdf

the red Artillery is on page 57



in the article:

DANISH UNIFORMS
1699-1712
Torstein Snorrason
Illustrations and Plates - Søren Henriksen
© Dan Schorr 2008

is also related to the Images of Danish Artillery in the Claus Möinichen paintings
He El Cid,
perfect, beautiful! More than that I could not hope. :lol:
Thank you very much indeed! You were really nice. :D
Well, for the Danes should be no doubt (at least, I hope! :mrgreen: ).

For the "dark blue" Prussians?
It may happen that does anyone to have some reference to "sure" sources? And if so, would he be so kind to provide them to us?
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by Belg » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:38 pm

Not to be picky, but I have now noticed that the period referred by the book quoted by El Cid is 1675-1679.
Are we really sure that even twentyfive years later, say at the time of the Battle of Blenheim (1704), the color of the danish gun-carriages had always been red?
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by jezamonos » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:51 pm

Hi belg,
Even source material can be wrong. You need to go with what works for you and also base it on general consensus. Hence my "think" comment. I don't want to categorically state something which could be wrong.

A source for Prussian dark blue regarding the 'source situation’ on Prussian artillery which i used was drawn heavily on the single most valuable 4 volume work by Malinowsky & Bonin, Geschichte der brandenburg–preussischen Artillerie, vol. II, Berlin 1841. It provides most detailed descriptions on the evolution on barrel and carriage design, but comes without images. This book is for the seven years war but close enough in my eyes.
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Re: Thunder on the Danube - 1704

Post by jezamonos » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:52 pm

Hi belg,
Even source material can be wrong. You need to go with what works for you and also base it on general consensus. Hence my "think" comment. I don't want to categorically state something which could be wrong.

A source for Prussian dark blue regarding the 'source situation’ on Prussian artillery which i used was drawn heavily on the single most valuable 4 volume work by Malinowsky & Bonin, Geschichte der brandenburg–preussischen Artillerie, vol. II, Berlin 1841. It provides most detailed descriptions on the evolution on barrel and carriage design, but comes without images. This book is for the seven years war but close enough in my eyes.
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