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Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:45 pm
by BerkshireJacobite
I am planning to build in miniature the armies of both sides at the Battle of the Boyne.
I need information on the strengths of the Jacobite foot regiments present, and their shot to pike ratios.
Can anyone supply this information or links to on-line sources?

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:53 pm
by turrabear
pretty sure ray had an artical on the jacobite pike to shot ratios on his site.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:09 pm
by BerkshireJacobite
What is the address of Ray's site?

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:16 pm
by EvilGinger
not sure but he, Ray that is, posts enough pictures of his figures here & they all have the URL with them so i would suggest looking there for a start. Barry is also researching this for a supplement which is due out Easter so may also being a helpful chap help.

:evil: Ginger

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:09 pm
by turrabear
ray post's as yar68 .so there is a link to his web page with his post's.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:27 pm
by Friedrich August I.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:39 pm
by BerkshireJacobite
Has anyone got a simple list that they can share? I am sure that many members have researched the subject before.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:17 pm
by turrabear
BerkshireJacobite wrote:Has anyone got a simple list that they can share? I am sure that many members have researched the subject before.
there is one on ray's blog.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:20 pm
by BerkshireJacobite
The info may be there somewhere on Ray's blog, but can anyone just provide a straight-forward summary or list? E.g. Antrim's 3 shot to 1 pike, or an overall ratio for the army.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:58 am
by turrabear
BerkshireJacobite wrote:The info may be there somewhere on Ray's blog, but can anyone just provide a straight-forward summary or list? E.g. Antrim's 3 shot to 1 pike, or an overall ratio for the army.
go to ray's site type in jacobite unit formations/ratios for blb2 taht will give you all the information you need .

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:13 am
by BerkshireJacobite
Thank you - I have found it at Ray's blog. :D
Looks like the figures in the Osprey book. I will re-present it here once I have sorted it.
I read somewhere that the Jacobites in Ireland received a large consignment of French coats (presumably white/grey) and muskets (matchlock or flintlock?) before the Boyne. Is that right?

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:16 pm
by yar68
It is the list from the Boyne Osprey but I've put a ratio to their figures. Here's a link for others

http://onelover-ray.blogspot.co.uk/2012 ... -blb2.html

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:29 am
by turrabear
just to add my ten pence worth not all jacobite regiment's had grenadier companies. also not to sure if the grenadier companies actualy wore a grenadier cap . only ever seen two that did . the foot guards and the lord grand priors.

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:50 am
by Graf Bretlach
Not seen anything about coats so far, but this is the King James request to Louis for arms, this was October 1689, what was supplied is a bit less will post that another time, but in theory this is what James thought he was short of.

Money - amount not stated
1,000 Barrels of powder with 100lb each with ball & tinder etc
10,000 Grenades (seems a lot?)
12,000 Muskets (think he got 7,000)
3,000 Firelocks
13,000 Bandoliers
Train of artillery with officers
Surgeons and Armourers
Bridging materials
Harness

Re: Jacobite Foot at the Boyne, pike to shot ratios

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:16 am
by Rebel
Both my Boyne and Aughrim books should contain a summary of what was shipped. Majority of the Jacobite foot wouldn't have had grenadier companies per se - most of the weapons being reserved for defensive purposes in any event.

- Regards,

Mike