Dan, I'm not sure where I read that date :roll: . I was skeptical about that date when I saw it. The 'apostles', I always assumed, were basically a wood tube with a press fit cap that contained a loose measure of powder and a ball and that the wad was a separate item. Priming, of course, done with t...

Which begs the question of just was in the new cartridge box? From what I understand, the pre-made paper cartridge did not appear until 1740 or so and the powder horn was also carried until then, so, did the 1680-1740ish box hold apostles?

Brian

Delbruck, Hall states: "The first troops to be armed with the new weapon were the marines. Then in 1672/3 the first companies of grenadiers...in 1675 the regiment of Gardes...1682 regiment of Ossery ordered 144 flintlocks and 204 muskets, indicating that at that time the regiment was armed with both...

Thanks for the feedback gents, I appreciate the kind words. This thread has taken a decidedly weird turn so let me put it back on the tracks. I've spent most of my time painting 6,10 and 15mm figs for the past 30 years so I was a bit apprehensive at moving to 28mm. I, too, have pet peeves in paintin...

This is my very first Warfare mini. It is a test case to apply my limited 28mm painting skills on. He represents a musketeer of the Dutch IR Prinz Albrecht (a Brandenburg unit) while in the service of William III. I'm in need of validation that I can "hang" in this scale, so any criticism would be h...

And yet another depiction without a musket, thanks delbruck. It seems the grenadiers of the period, like pikemen, have a specialized roll in the battalion and it's not shooting.
Brian

Neat picture! I noticed the grenadier has no musket...hmmm, perhaps the earliest grenadiers lacked one and their primary purpose was throwing bombs about and hatcheting gabions, logs and skulls! In this case the satchel is for grenades. Look closely at his left hand and you will see his slow match. ...

In most cases, the grenade satchel would take the place of the musketeers bullet pouch worn on the right hip with belt over the left shoulder. The belt would also have a small metal tube at chest level to hold the burning slow match. The musket rounds would be carried in a small 'belly box' worn on ...

Well, the engraving you have is from 1672. According to Rene' Chartrand in his Osprey book, "Louis XIV's Army", Lt. Col. Martinet introduced the concept by giving an elite company of grenadiers to the Regiment du Roi in 1667. From October 1670, about 30 regiments(battalions) had a standing grenadier...

This is an interesting discussion. I read a little deeper into "The essay..." mentioned above. Here's a tid-bit on page 412: "The old custom for orders of battle, and it is still used by many.."(remember this is written in 1761).."is to leave between each battalion or squadron, ranged on a plain, an...

CB, According to the Hall CD,(if you're at all serious, get them all) IR 18 Colonels: Prinz Albrecht(Brandenburg) (1687-1697) English service 1689-1697 White/grey coats with blue cuffs, waistcoat and breeches. Drummers, sergeants and officers have blue coats with red cuffs, breeches and stockings. I...

Mark, I personally believe the two lines of battalions would be lined up in checkerboard fashion with the second line about a battalion frontage behind the first. It makes sense, for as we know, it would be very disruptive for one battalion to pass through another. I'm not saying it never happened b...

Motorway,

Thanks, I also just remembered I have the Hall CD which explains everything

Hey all,
Just a quick question regarding the Dutch regiments serving William- would they still be armed with pikes?

Brian

Mark, Usual interval between battalions is the frontage of one battalion. See below. From "Essay on the Art of War:..." page 423 "During the reign of Louis XIII and the minority of Louis XIV, armies were placed in order of battle in two lines with an interval between one battalion and another, or on...