League Of Augsburg - Fighting Talk

...they do indeed.

DPT

These are absolutely cracking Clarence. I particularly love the way you have posed Mr 'Right of the Line' . The arm position is bang on.

Your Wolseley's obviously post date my Wolseley's. Mine are their 'Recruit, scruffy and unblooded' phase whilst your's are clearly in the 'Battle tested, uniformed and unstoppable' phase.

If the rest of your Horse turn out like this then they will be mighty impressive.

Just went by Sapherson - there was no date for when they received their uniforms. I don't have the book with me but I think they were raised in 1689 so I thought they would have been uniformed by the Boyne encounter. I actually like your scruffy guys, but I didn't see them until after I started or I might have gone that route!

I have another squadron started and after that I plan to paint Schomberg's Huguenot regiment in grey with red facings...

On the subject of scruffy troops I think I am going to paint any Jacobite units with unknown uniforms in civilian browns and greys rather than simply assume grey French uniforms - kind of like my American AWI militia. I love the Jacobite pike units you painted, Barry!

I think there is plenty of scope for ECW type non uniformed units but of course with the later 17th century dress. I just can't imagine that there was such a high degree of uniformity, cleaniliness and availability around at a time when soldiers were barely paid if at all, corruption was rampant amongst both vendors and purchasers, no real regulations existed, men were changing sides frequently, militias were involved and standards of personal hygiene were off the scale. I read somewhere recently that Louis XIV only ever had one bath in his adult life! If that is true I shudder to think what his smalls looked like!
This richest man in Europe should have been the least smelly!

barr7430 wrote:I think there is plenty of scope for ECW type non uniformed units but of course with the later 17th century dress. I just can't imagine that there was such a high degree of uniformity, cleaniliness and availability around at a time when soldiers were barely paid if at all, corruption was rampant amongst both vendors and purchasers, no real regulations existed, men were changing sides frequently, militias were involved and standards of personal hygiene were off the scale. I read somewhere recently that Louis XIV only ever had one bath in his adult life! If that is true I shudder to think what his smalls looked like!
This richest man in Europe should have been the least smelly!

Well, the infantry bathed frequently. Whenever they crossed a stream or whenever it rained!

I'm just back from staying with my brother for a week in the Alpes Maritimes. (a liitle village called Sospel) I went to the local museum which has various bits and bobs.Speaking to the curator it would appear that the various Louis' raised several regiments from the area.
From the conversation I had with him its pretty much as suspected. The local "regulars" seem to have started out with a white or strangely light yellow/ buff coat . Cross belts, muskets and a hat of some description were provided.
Local militia were however hardly uniform at all. Large numbers didn't have shoes and hats were whatever you fancied wearing.
Interesting speaking to a local historian
So it seems like pretty non uniform uniform especially for newly raised or militia.
Nothing startlingly new then but good to have it "confirmed"

j1mwallace wrote:The local "regulars" seem to have started out with a white or strangely light yellow/ buff coat .

The "strangely light yellow" shade was common to many 17th Century buff coats (especially the better quality ones) when they were new. It was I think an effect caused by the leather tanning / curing process, and faded to 'buff' over time.

Another odd snippet of information I seem to recall about buff coats (at least during the ECW) was they were expensive items to purchase - a good one cost more than a horse. Those Sealed Knot regiments you see with every musketeer in a buff coat are not authentic I was once told .

DPT

Done and dusted...



The second squadron is underway!

Very, very, nice indeed.

And that goes for your blue guards too from the other thread. Also very very good.

Now excuse me, I'm just off to take a ball-peen hammer to the cavalry I was working on

Andy

Utterly lovely but I being the big battalions man that I am cant help feeling there should be more of them .

Ginger

EvilGinger wrote:Utterly lovely but I being the big battalions man that I am cant help feeling there should be more of them .

Ginger

The second squadron is underway...

Very good but I was meaning more like the daft things I do I have 30 in a "half troop" done with Wargames factory troopers & Dixon command for my Sharp Practice Variant & stopped waiting for Warfare cavalry to come out before making this up to more perhaps a couple of squadrens.

I am I fear a bit deranged may be more than a bit

Ginger

Finished the second squadron this morning...



There is another pic of the WIP conversion of the ensign on my blog...

What a superb looking unit
Personaly I like the idea placing them 'onto' the fence

I'm not going to sit on the fence on this one - they look great!

DPT