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Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:52 pm
by Gunfreak

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:32 pm
by Tacitus
The figures look really nice, but the uniforms are unfurtunatly not correct. The unit is depicted with Kalmar Regiment's colour but that regiment had the following uniform:

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Your figures' uniforms are closer to the neighbouring Jönköping Regiment which had the following uniform and colours:

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Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:35 pm
by Gunfreak
Man, i even have Jónkjòping colors, I honestly didn't think the uniforms were that well known and simply picked random flags and random colors.

Oh well Guess I have to put more effort into reseach.

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:00 pm
by Tacitus
Swedes are very good at keeping records of things, even better than the Germans, so we have extensive archives filled with information from the early modern age. Which in particular those who want to research their family history are greatly thankful of.

But this also means that we have very detailed knowledge about Swedish miltary uniforms. Especially after Lars-Eric Höglund spent many years in the archives and then published his research. And there is still new information popping up now and then about uniforms when other researchers visit the archives.

An easily available source to Swedish uniforms (and Danish-Norwegian) is my own website:

http://www.tacitus.nu/karoliner/infanteri1709.htm

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:14 pm
by Friedrich August I.
Tacitus wrote:Swedes are very good at keeping records of things, even better than the Germans, so we have extensive archives filled with information from the early modern era. ........
Tacitus,

Sorry if this sounds a bit sarcastic but we "germans" had most of our records burned away by a rain of bombs 70 Years ago.

http://digital.slub-dresden.de/kollektionen/

It was only recently discovered that in a certain City in a former Kingdom are vast quantities of records available and unharmed by a raging firestorm outside in which 60.000 civilians like my greatgrandparents perished.

A very sarcastic member of the greater germanic race. :wink:

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:15 pm
by Gunfreak
Thanks that sight is definatly saved, so hopefully my sweeds will be more historic correct.

Thanks for the cretiqe and link, much apritiated. :D

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:11 pm
by Russian James
Tacitus, one of my partner's ancestors was involved with the Kalmar regiment around the time of the GNW, I'll send you some info privately soon...

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:50 am
by janner
Looks like a quick change of colours and waistcoats, and you're there :D

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:23 pm
by Tacitus
Another option could be Närke-Värmland Regiment. They wore tricornes from 1707 and thereafter looked just like the Jönköping picture shown above. That regiment participated in the major campaigns but also left a few companies at home to secure the border against the Norwegian hordes... :)

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:37 pm
by Artimas
Tacitus:

Do you realize how archaic the phrase "Norwegian hordes" sounds to a person in the 21st century? :roll:

I loved it!!!!!

Artimas

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:51 pm
by janner
Artimas wrote:Tacitus:

Do you realize how archaic the phrase "Norwegian hordes" sounds to a person in the 21st century? :roll:

I loved it!!!!!

Artimas
Sounds quite normal to a person in the 21st century living in Denmark :lol:

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:46 pm
by Tacitus
Artimas wrote:Tacitus:

Do you realize how archaic the phrase "Norwegian hordes" sounds to a person in the 21st century? :roll:

I loved it!!!!!

Artimas
Yes, it does sound archaic but in these days the term seems more appropriate than ever. Since the Norwegians found oil in the North Sea they have become one of the worlds very richest countries and the prices in Norway for food, cloths and other items are now very high. In neighbouring Sweden on the other hand the prices are much cheaper. As a result of this the Norwegians really do cross the border in hordes to fill their cars with less expensive Swedish products. There are large supermarkets popping up in the forests on the Swedish side of the border with the sole purpose to cater for Norwegians who do not want to pay ridiculously high prices for food (the Norwegian government is not so keen on free trade and protect their farmers with very high tariffs).

Here's by the way a picture of a Norwegian (maybe from before they found oil):

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You still think the term "Norwegian hordes" is inappropriate? :D

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:33 pm
by Artimas
Ha, ha.... a Norwegian back to his "roots" so to speak. :twisted: Looks like he could fit the category "one of a horde" (a little down on his luck).

Artimas

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:29 pm
by Gunfreak
janner wrote:
Artimas wrote:Tacitus:

Do you realize how archaic the phrase "Norwegian hordes" sounds to a person in the 21st century? :roll:

I loved it!!!!!

Artimas
Sounds quite normal to a person in the 21st century living in Denmark :lol:
You know very well that with out the "hordes" of Norwegians, the economy of much of northen denmark would collapse!

You owe us man!!

Re: Du gamla, Du fria

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:31 pm
by Gunfreak
Tacitus wrote:Another option could be Närke-Värmland Regiment. They wore tricornes from 1707 and thereafter looked just like the Jönköping picture shown above. That regiment participated in the major campaigns but also left a few companies at home to secure the border against the Norwegian hordes... :)

Norwegians dosn't form hordes, we form parlaments!

like owls, the plural of norwegians is Parlament, as in a parlament of norwegians.

For sweeds it's gangbang, as in a gangbang of sweeds.

For danes it's a Boing 747, as in a Boing 474 of danes.