Order of Battle for Landen 1693

[Anonymous]

Need help with an Order of Battle.
Any books or websites? I found the British OB but nothing else.
Thanks for any help!
Pete

[londonjock]

Found this one:
http://www.sammustafa.com/Resources/Nee ... 201793.pdf

Its an Acrobat file, written as a scenario, but it may help with what you're after, particularly as you have the Brit OB to compare it with

[barr7430]

Slight confusion chaps!!!

The PDF You've attached Londonjock is for the second battle of NEERWINDEN/LANDEN which took place during the Napoleonic era in the same place!!!!
One hundred years before, Louis XIV and King Billy slugged it out big time in the largest battle of the Grand Alliance era.

I visited the battlefield a couple of years back and was surprised to find more info about the Napoleonic bash (although there wasn't very much of that either) than the GA bash.

Charles Grant mentions some of the regiments present in from Pike to Shot. The French had over 80,000 men at Landen(more than Waterloo) so I would think they would have had up to 100 battalions - 8 of which were the Maison du Roi : Gardes Francaises & Gardes Suisses..

[PaulMc]

Allo folks,

I'm not 100% sure on this but you could try George Nafziger's website and order them from there, his OOB's are pretty extensive. The adress for that site escapes my memory at the moment though.

Paul

[PaulMc]

Hi again,

Here it is:- www.home.fuse.net/nafziger

He doesn't have specific battle OOB's for this period unfortunately. Check both the 17th & 18th century lists.

Paul

[Anonymous]

Dear Peter,

I must appologize to you but I have not sent the French Neerwinden Battle Order Yet. I will send you before the end of this month.

Jean-Michel

[Anonymous]

Jean-Michel,
I received your letter with the French Orders of Battle for Neerwinden and Steenkirken.
Thank you very much.

They showed only French troops, do you have the Irish troops that were present?

Pete

[Guest]

Just some more thoughts.

Did you saw on the battle orders (I have not them here ) the regiments of Clare, Dillon, and Lee (2000 strong each) under the command of Moncassel (also named Mac Carthy). this was the Irish brigade of the french army not to be confused with the Jacobite army in France (10 rgts (17 batallions); 3 indépendant companies, 2 troops of Horse Guards, 2 rgt of Horse (2 esc Each). The grand total (French Irish brigade included) 12 326 mens

[barr7430]

Justin McCarthy is Lord Montcashel...

Jean Michel, I would also very much like to have a cpoy of the French Order of Battle for Landen Any chance of you sending it to me too?

many thanks

Barry

PS I am surprised at the number of 2000 for EACH of Dillon, Clare & Lee as this is the equivalent number of men that you would ordinarily find in between 2-4 battalions

[Guest]

Jean-Michel,
You sent page 615 for Neerwinden. There are no Irish or Jacobite forces on this page. Perhaps there is a second page?
You sent pages 472 and 473 for Steinkirque.

thanks for everything,
Pete

[barr7430]

Thought this detail may be useful. It means the British contingent formed somewhere in the region of 20% of the Grand Alliance Army at
Neerwinden/Landen


HORSE

Oxfords Blues (Blues & Royals) OXFORDS
Woods (3rd Dragoon Guards)
Langstons (4th Dragoon Guards)
Wyndhams (6th Dragoon Guards)
Capels Dragoons (4th Hussars ) ESSEX

10-12 squadrons ( approx 1000 - 1500 men)

FOOT

1st Battalion, 1st Foot Guards
2nd Battalion, 1st Foot Guards
1st Battalion, 2nd Foot Guards
1st Battalion, Scots Foot guards
2nd Battalion, Scots Foot guards
1st Battalion, Hamilton/Orkney(1st Royal Scots)
2nd Battalion, Hamilton/Orkney(1st Royal Scots)
Selwyn(2nd Royals) KIRKES
Churchills(3rd Buffs)
Trelawnys(4th )
Fitzpatricks Fuzileers(7th Royal Fusiliers)
Tidcombes (14th)
Derbys (16th Bedfordshire)
Erles (19th Green Howards)
O'Farrells Scots Fuzileers(21st)
Leven's (25th- KOSB)
Monro/Ferguson(26th - Cameronians)

Scots-Dutch Brigade (3 Battalions)

20 Battalions - approx 10,000 men


Have highlighted in red the units I have in my collex and which can be seen in the gallery somewhere

[Anonymous]

Thus far I have the Louis's OB, courtesy of Jean-Michel, less James's Army.
I have the English contingent ( thanks Barry), but lack the rest of the continental army.

I will type up the French OB and post here.
Does anyone have a reference for the Dutch OB?

Pete

[Mats]

I'll try to come up with the Dutch OOB, but I'm quite busy, so please bear with me if it'll take some time...

Mats

[Anonymous]

Order of Battle Neerwinden (Landen)

Army of the King, 1693

The King
Marshall De Bouflers

First Line

Lieutenants General
Compte De Montrevail
Marquis De Monchevreuil
Duke Du Maine

Right Wing- Dragoons

Brigade Cailus
Royal 4
Cailus 2
Chantreau 4

Brigade Reneville
Grenadiers a Cheval 4
Gardes du Corps 4
Gendarmes 4
Chevaux Legers 2
Carabiniers 5
_____
Squadrons 29

Center- Infantry

Brigade Blainville
Champagne 3
Boulfers 2

Brigade Cadrieux
Cauphin 3
Toulouze 2

Brigade Charancy
Gardes Francoises 6
Gardes Suisses 4

Brigade Chamarante
Le Reine 3
Perigord 1


Brigade Surville
Le Roy 4
____
Battalions 28

Left Wing Cavalry

Brigade Bol
Royal Allemand 3
Berry 2
Conde 2
Roquespine 4
Villequier 4
Rohan 2
Aubusson 2
Brigade Coad
Coad 3
Du Maine 2
Commissaire General 4
Left Wing Dragoons

Brigade d’Asfeld
d’Asfeld 4
Dauphin 4
____
Squadrons 36



Second Line

Lieutenants General
De Busca
Compte De Gasse
Compte De Tallard

Right Wing- Cavalry

Brigade Blanchefort
Anjou 2
Bouflers 4
Besons 4

Brigade Courtebonne
Clermont 4
Glisg 4
Courtebonne 4
_____
Squadrons 22

Center- Infantry
Brigade Cavois
Poitou 2
Cavois 1
Brigade Dantin
Languedoc 1
Monroux 1
Fontenay

Brigade Sorbeck
Stroppa 4
Sorbeck 4

Brigade Surlaube
Surlaube 1
Lignery 1
Santerre 1

Brigade Thouy
Dupas 1
Thouy 1
Du Maine 2
____
Battalions 20

Left Wing Cavalry

Brigade Langallerie
Langallerie 4
Imecour 4
Courcelle 2

Brigade Du Rosel
Vallay 4
Melac 4
Du Rosel 4
____
Squadrons 22

Brigade De Vigny
Battalion des Bombardiers
du Royal Artillery

Mousquertaires du Roy
(4 squadrons & 1 battalion)

[barr7430]

Pete,

thanks a lot for this! I have downloaded, added to the existing info on the Brits and hope that sometime Mats gets a chance to complete the picture with the Dutch
I will incorporate into the 'feature' on Neerwinden for ULB.

B