Blenheim OOB

[kippax]

Ray
Again these figures are fantastic paul has done a great job on them,i bet your proud as punch to own them.
And i hope they serve you well on the battlefield may the dice roll kind for your fellows in red

[yar68]

Ray,
Absolutely beautiful figures, the flags just add that touch more to make me even more jealous.

[Churchill]

Ray.

[jezamonos]

Super stuff that. I painted up my first English guy over the weekend and it is nowhere near the quslity on those. Talented buggers Bob and Paul.

[BP]

Fantastic painting for all those.

Ohh to be talented

Bill

[obriendavid]

Very useful Ray, can you also please supply all the uniform and flag details please.
Cheers
Dave

[Churchill]

Ray.

[Rob Herrick]

Very useful Ray, can you also please supply all the uniform and flag details please.
Cheers
Dave

While you're at it, have all the figs painted to your excellent standard and sent to us by post. We'll chip in and do some basing . . .

[barr7430]

Dear All,

I have been instructed in unequivocal terms by Iain Stanford that he wishes ALL extracts of his work which have been copied in whole or in part to be immediately removed from this thread and anywhere else that they appear on this Board. He is extemely unhappy about the lifting of his work without permission. He has cited breach of copyright and although not threatening any legal action wants all trace to be removed. I would therefore ask you individually to check your posts on this and other threads to ensure you have left no trace of Mr Stanford's output anywhere on the FIGHTING TALK FORUM. You may edit the post or delete it fully. I will not take responsibility for any data left in place. My other alternative is to delete entire threads completely, somewhat draconian I admit but perhaps necessary. To ensure the Boards are clean I would ask that any reference to Iain Stanford anywhere on the Boards be removed forthwith by the author. This process may take some time as the forum is somewhat large and complex.
Ray, several of your posts have already been deleted by me as they were particularly irksome to Mr Stanford. This may be a matter that you would wish to take up with him personally. I am dismayed that even a mention of copyright breach has occured in connection with FT. I do not wish to be involved with the matter or Mr Stanford in any way going forward as the hassle (however innocently created) of this particular issue is something I can do without.

It is regretable that such an informed thread which has produced extremely stimulating debate and many leaps forward in collective understanding should reach such a point and I would ask you to draw your own inferences from the matter.

So please, from today on avoid reference to Mr Stanford and his work on this board or the post will be deleted by me as a matter of protocol and without exception

Thanks and best

Barry

[Churchill]

Ray.

[barr7430]

I fully appreciate that Ray and I made that point quite clearly in some communication with him. I felt that you had promoted in a very positive way his research, credibility and publications. If someone did that for me I would be nothing but grateful.

I hope this thread will continue as there are many other researchers, historians, contributors, gamers, painters and enthusiasts who have made valueable contribution here. The period is not the monopoly of an individual and challenges to stated conclusions should always be met with reasoned and logical argument and not emotion.

I always was somewhat irked by quotes from Daniel Defoe as the solo English 'day' at Blenheim did I think include the odd Scot.. interesting historical inaccuracy that But then again we were put on this earth to serve a higher power or so all my English friends told me...

[footslogger]

I'd like to understand this a little better:

"So please, from today on avoid reference to Mr Stanford and his work on this board or the post will be deleted by me as a matter of protocol and without exception"

Iain was upset that someone copied stuff from his book (which is under copyright) and put it online here, and now are you saying you don't want anyone to mention work that Iain has done? That sounds different than "stop publishing Iain's copyrighted work using my bb." But I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly.

[barr7430]

I have run this Forum for over 7 years without any real hassle or having to ban, stifle, delete or edit anyone. Any small blips have righted themselves without my intervention.
I will not go into any further detail on private corespondence between myself and members/ex members of the forum. I don't have time for online disputes. The easiest way to eliminate ambiguity or misinterpretation is to avoid issues of contention.
Forum users cannot be unaware that disagreements on points of historical reference existed on various threads relating to Iain Stanford. I was not a part of that contention but have had to deal with the aftermath.
That is the reason for suggesting the avoidance of his work. I do not want to be drawn in to this any further. Footslogger if you want to correspond with me privately on the subject, happy to do so but I won't debate or clarify further on this thread

cheers

[footslogger]

I appreciate your not wanting to go into it any further in public. I'm not that interested in getting any more details. I've been around here a few years though not as long as you and I've seen some of those debates. They seem to have been fine to me but maybe there are things I'm not aware of.

Just as an observer on this thread, I'd like to state how it seems to me.

Ray went off and published someone's copyrighted work. You've done your part to see that it's removed. That seems like the responsible thing to do. And I appreciate your efforts not to banish or stifle, as it seems like revmoving the post is enough.

But it seems like you're directing a lot of anger towards Iain and I can't quite figure that out, which is why I asked for clarification. As an observer on this thread, that seems misplaced.

However you want to handle it, is fine (it's your bulletin board after all), and I can live with that.

[j1mwallace]

My tuppence worth but, footslogger you have this entirely the wrong way round. As Barry says it is probably better to PM him privately