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Order of Battle for Landen 1693
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:58 pm
by Anonymous
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Need help with an Order of Battle.
Any books or websites? I found the British OB but nothing else.
Thanks for any help!
Pete
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:31 pm
by londonjock
Found this one:
http://www.sammustafa.com/Resources/Nee ... 201793.pdf
Its an Acrobat file, written as a scenario, but it may help with what you're after, particularly as you have the Brit OB to compare it with
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:47 pm
by barr7430
Slight confusion chaps!!!
The PDF You've attached Londonjock is for the second battle of NEERWINDEN/LANDEN which took place during the Napoleonic era in the same place!!!!
One hundred years before, Louis XIV and King Billy slugged it out big time in the largest battle of the Grand Alliance era.
I visited the battlefield a couple of years back and was surprised to find more info about the Napoleonic bash (although there wasn't very much of that either) than the GA bash.
Charles Grant mentions some of the regiments present in from Pike to Shot. The French had over 80,000 men at Landen(more than Waterloo) so I would think they would have had up to 100 battalions - 8 of which were the Maison du Roi : Gardes Francaises & Gardes Suisses..
OOB's
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:03 pm
by PaulMc
Allo folks,
I'm not 100% sure on this but you could try George Nafziger's website and order them from there, his OOB's are pretty extensive. The adress for that site escapes my memory at the moment though.
Paul
Got It!
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:11 pm
by PaulMc
Hi again,
Here it is:-
www.home.fuse.net/nafziger
He doesn't have specific battle OOB's for this period unfortunately. Check both the 17th & 18th century lists.
Paul
Neerwinden Battle order
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:49 am
by Anonymous
Dear Peter,
I must appologize to you but I have not sent the French Neerwinden Battle Order Yet. I will send you before the end of this month.
Jean-Michel
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:03 pm
by Anonymous
Jean-Michel,
I received your letter with the French Orders of Battle for Neerwinden and Steenkirken.
Thank you very much.
They showed only French troops, do you have the Irish troops that were present?
Pete
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:57 am
by Guest
Just some more thoughts.
Did you saw on the battle orders (I have not them here ) the regiments of Clare, Dillon, and Lee (2000 strong each) under the command of Moncassel (also named Mac Carthy). this was the Irish brigade of the french army not to be confused with the Jacobite army in France (10 rgts (17 batallions); 3 indépendant companies, 2 troops of Horse Guards, 2 rgt of Horse (2 esc Each). The grand total (French Irish brigade included) 12 326 mens
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:53 pm
by barr7430
Justin McCarthy is Lord Montcashel...
Jean Michel, I would also very much like to have a cpoy of the French Order of Battle for Landen
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Any chance of you sending it to me too?
many thanks
Barry
PS I am surprised at the number of 2000 for EACH of Dillon, Clare & Lee as this is the equivalent number of men that you would ordinarily find in between 2-4 battalions
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:12 am
by Guest
Jean-Michel,
You sent page 615 for Neerwinden. There are no Irish or Jacobite forces on this page. Perhaps there is a second page?
You sent pages 472 and 473 for Steinkirque.
thanks for everything,
Pete
British Regiments at Neerwinden
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:20 pm
by barr7430
Thought this detail may be useful. It means the British contingent formed somewhere in the region of 20% of the Grand Alliance Army at
Neerwinden/Landen
HORSE
Oxfords Blues (Blues & Royals) OXFORDS
Woods (3rd Dragoon Guards)
Langstons (4th Dragoon Guards)
Wyndhams (6th Dragoon Guards)
Capels Dragoons (4th Hussars ) ESSEX
10-12 squadrons ( approx 1000 - 1500 men)
FOOT
1st Battalion, 1st Foot Guards
2nd Battalion, 1st Foot Guards
1st Battalion, 2nd Foot Guards
1st Battalion, Scots Foot guards
2nd Battalion, Scots Foot guards
1st Battalion, Hamilton/Orkney(1st Royal Scots)
2nd Battalion, Hamilton/Orkney(1st Royal Scots)
Selwyn(2nd Royals) KIRKES
Churchills(3rd Buffs)
Trelawnys(4th )
Fitzpatricks Fuzileers(7th Royal Fusiliers)
Tidcombes (14th)
Derbys (16th Bedfordshire)
Erles (19th Green Howards)
O'Farrells Scots Fuzileers(21st)
Leven's (25th- KOSB)
Monro/Ferguson(26th - Cameronians)
Scots-Dutch Brigade (3 Battalions)
20 Battalions - approx 10,000 men
Have highlighted in red the units I have in my collex and which can be seen in the gallery somewhere
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:28 pm
by Anonymous
Thus far I have the Louis's OB, courtesy of Jean-Michel, less James's Army.
I have the English contingent ( thanks Barry), but lack the rest of the continental army.
I will type up the French OB and post here.
Does anyone have a reference for the Dutch OB?
Pete
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:45 pm
by Mats
I'll try to come up with the Dutch OOB, but I'm quite busy, so please bear with me if it'll take some time...
Mats
French OB as promised- tabs were lost but you can replace
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:07 pm
by Anonymous
Order of Battle Neerwinden (Landen)
Army of the King, 1693
The King
Marshall De Bouflers
First Line
Lieutenants General
Compte De Montrevail
Marquis De Monchevreuil
Duke Du Maine
Right Wing- Dragoons
Brigade Cailus
Royal 4
Cailus 2
Chantreau 4
Brigade Reneville
Grenadiers a Cheval 4
Gardes du Corps 4
Gendarmes 4
Chevaux Legers 2
Carabiniers 5
_____
Squadrons 29
Center- Infantry
Brigade Blainville
Champagne 3
Boulfers 2
Brigade Cadrieux
Cauphin 3
Toulouze 2
Brigade Charancy
Gardes Francoises 6
Gardes Suisses 4
Brigade Chamarante
Le Reine 3
Perigord 1
Brigade Surville
Le Roy 4
____
Battalions 28
Left Wing Cavalry
Brigade Bol
Royal Allemand 3
Berry 2
Conde 2
Roquespine 4
Villequier 4
Rohan 2
Aubusson 2
Brigade Coad
Coad 3
Du Maine 2
Commissaire General 4
Left Wing Dragoons
Brigade d’Asfeld
d’Asfeld 4
Dauphin 4
____
Squadrons 36
Second Line
Lieutenants General
De Busca
Compte De Gasse
Compte De Tallard
Right Wing- Cavalry
Brigade Blanchefort
Anjou 2
Bouflers 4
Besons 4
Brigade Courtebonne
Clermont 4
Glisg 4
Courtebonne 4
_____
Squadrons 22
Center- Infantry
Brigade Cavois
Poitou 2
Cavois 1
Brigade Dantin
Languedoc 1
Monroux 1
Fontenay
Brigade Sorbeck
Stroppa 4
Sorbeck 4
Brigade Surlaube
Surlaube 1
Lignery 1
Santerre 1
Brigade Thouy
Dupas 1
Thouy 1
Du Maine 2
____
Battalions 20
Left Wing Cavalry
Brigade Langallerie
Langallerie 4
Imecour 4
Courcelle 2
Brigade Du Rosel
Vallay 4
Melac 4
Du Rosel 4
____
Squadrons 22
Brigade De Vigny
Battalion des Bombardiers
du Royal Artillery
Mousquertaires du Roy
(4 squadrons & 1 battalion)
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:29 am
by barr7430
Pete,
thanks a lot for this! I have downloaded, added to the existing info on the Brits and hope that sometime Mats gets a chance to complete the picture with the Dutch
I will incorporate into the 'feature' on Neerwinden for ULB.
B