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WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:12 pm
by lenin
I'm about to idulge in some of the impressive Ebor WSS Austrians. I intend to begin with the Brandenburg - Bayreuth regiment and would apreciate any information concerning the flags they may have carried. Apologies if this has already been covered, but I couldn't find any posts.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:37 pm
by Friedrich August I.
Lenin,

I am not sure if I understood you correct but maybe you try this tread

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4331&hilit=Brandenburg+Bayreuth

The flag you may find in the Shop/Flag section

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/shop/pr ... at-17.html

Hope that helps

Günter

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:15 pm
by lenin
Thanks Günter. If they are the same regiment who appear in CS Grant's 'The Armies and Uniforms of Marlborough's Wars' (Vol 1) Listed as being part of the Austrian army, then yes. If they are and the flags are the same, then that solves a lot of problems. :D

Andy

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:27 pm
by danschorr
These are two different regiments. The Austrian Brandenburg-Bayreuth Regiment in WSS carried a red and blue quartered colour with red in the upper left and lower right quarters, and the imperial eagle with crown. Another variation has red, blue, red vertical stripes with the imperial eagle and crown. Both variations were carried at the same time.

Hope this helps.

Dan

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:32 pm
by lenin
Thanks Dan :D
Now all I need is to track down a source for that flag.

Andy

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:32 pm
by Friedrich August I.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:27 pm
by danschorr
Andy,

Do you want sources or images of the flags? PM me with your email address and I'll send them to you.

Dan

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:40 am
by Graf Bretlach
FYI This infanterie-Regiment raised 1701 (numbered 41 in 1769)

Inhabers
1701-04 Christian Ernst, Markgraf zu Brandenburg-Bayreuth und Kulmbach
from september 1704 Georg Wilhelm (son of Christian)

generally called the Bayreuth Regiment till 1765

standard is illustrated in the August Kuhn/Robert Hall book on Imperial Austrian infanterie. red & blue with the black eagle.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:19 am
by turrabear
Friedrich August I. wrote:Lenin,

I am not sure if I understood you correct but maybe you try this tread

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4331&hilit=Brandenburg+Bayreuth

The flag you may find in the Shop/Flag section

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/shop/pr ... at-17.html

Hope that helps

Günter
thats actualy the dutch regiment brandenburgh , not the austraian.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:59 am
by 1ngram
Maverick Models does flags of this regiment of the WSS period. See here: http://www.maverick-models.com/wss_austris_imperial.htm

They have them in many sizes for different scales and in paper or cloth.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:09 am
by Rohan Wilmott
Hello, lenin.

The flags by Maverick listed in the WSS Austrian section are the ones you want (as I arranged for Stuart to make them :wink: ), and are as described by Dan Schorr and illustrated in the Robert Hall & GioanCarlo Boeri book on the Austrian Army published through the Pike & Shot Society.

There is also a very good Knoetel plate illustrating the grenadiers that should be easily found with a Google search.

Nic at Ebor has done several grenadier figures specially too, and they are listed in the Austrian Foot section, so you are all set! :D

Cheers, Rohan.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:47 am
by lenin
Thanks Rohan, good to hear that the Maverick ones are the same as the ones that Dan showed me. As for the Ebor grenadiers, they were the ones that swung me. I'll check out the plate, as I'm now finding differences in coat colours, some say Bright Blue, some say Grey.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:00 am
by Rohan Wilmott
My pleasure, lenin. I have sent you a PM re the uniforms. Cheers, Rohan

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:59 am
by Belg
Graf Bretlach wrote:FYI This infanterie-Regiment raised 1701 (numbered 41 in 1769)

Inhabers
1701-04 Christian Ernst, Markgraf zu Brandenburg-Bayreuth und Kulmbach
from september 1704 Georg Wilhelm (son of Christian)

generally called the Bayreuth Regiment till 1765

standard is illustrated in the August Kuhn/Robert Hall book on Imperial Austrian infanterie. red & blue with the black eagle.
Me, too, I have found the flags in the book-CD by August Kuhm with the color tables by Robert Hall.

Re: WSS - Austrians

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:32 pm
by curassier
Cold you please share any uniform details and a link to the Grenadier print ?
many thanks
JM