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WSS - Austrians

Post by lenin » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:12 pm

I'm about to idulge in some of the impressive Ebor WSS Austrians. I intend to begin with the Brandenburg - Bayreuth regiment and would apreciate any information concerning the flags they may have carried. Apologies if this has already been covered, but I couldn't find any posts.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by Friedrich August I. » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:37 pm

Lenin,

I am not sure if I understood you correct but maybe you try this tread

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4331&hilit=Brandenburg+Bayreuth

The flag you may find in the Shop/Flag section

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/shop/pr ... at-17.html

Hope that helps

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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by lenin » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:15 pm

Thanks Günter. If they are the same regiment who appear in CS Grant's 'The Armies and Uniforms of Marlborough's Wars' (Vol 1) Listed as being part of the Austrian army, then yes. If they are and the flags are the same, then that solves a lot of problems. :D

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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by danschorr » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:27 pm

These are two different regiments. The Austrian Brandenburg-Bayreuth Regiment in WSS carried a red and blue quartered colour with red in the upper left and lower right quarters, and the imperial eagle with crown. Another variation has red, blue, red vertical stripes with the imperial eagle and crown. Both variations were carried at the same time.

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Post by lenin » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:32 pm

Thanks Dan :D
Now all I need is to track down a source for that flag.

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Post by Friedrich August I. » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:32 pm

„Macht Euch Euren Dregg alleene“

"Sort your filth out by yourself!" The King of Saxony Friedrich August III., at his abdication 1918, referred to the quarrels in the parliament and the squabbling within the provisional government.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by danschorr » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:27 pm

Andy,

Do you want sources or images of the flags? PM me with your email address and I'll send them to you.

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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by Graf Bretlach » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:40 am

FYI This infanterie-Regiment raised 1701 (numbered 41 in 1769)

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1701-04 Christian Ernst, Markgraf zu Brandenburg-Bayreuth und Kulmbach
from september 1704 Georg Wilhelm (son of Christian)

generally called the Bayreuth Regiment till 1765

standard is illustrated in the August Kuhn/Robert Hall book on Imperial Austrian infanterie. red & blue with the black eagle.
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Post by turrabear » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:19 am

Friedrich August I. wrote:Lenin,

I am not sure if I understood you correct but maybe you try this tread

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4331&hilit=Brandenburg+Bayreuth

The flag you may find in the Shop/Flag section

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/shop/pr ... at-17.html

Hope that helps

Günter
thats actualy the dutch regiment brandenburgh , not the austraian.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by 1ngram » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:59 am

Maverick Models does flags of this regiment of the WSS period. See here: http://www.maverick-models.com/wss_austris_imperial.htm

They have them in many sizes for different scales and in paper or cloth.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by Rohan Wilmott » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:09 am

Hello, lenin.

The flags by Maverick listed in the WSS Austrian section are the ones you want (as I arranged for Stuart to make them :wink: ), and are as described by Dan Schorr and illustrated in the Robert Hall & GioanCarlo Boeri book on the Austrian Army published through the Pike & Shot Society.

There is also a very good Knoetel plate illustrating the grenadiers that should be easily found with a Google search.

Nic at Ebor has done several grenadier figures specially too, and they are listed in the Austrian Foot section, so you are all set! :D

Cheers, Rohan.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by lenin » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:47 am

Thanks Rohan, good to hear that the Maverick ones are the same as the ones that Dan showed me. As for the Ebor grenadiers, they were the ones that swung me. I'll check out the plate, as I'm now finding differences in coat colours, some say Bright Blue, some say Grey.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by Rohan Wilmott » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:00 am

My pleasure, lenin. I have sent you a PM re the uniforms. Cheers, Rohan
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by Belg » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:59 am

Graf Bretlach wrote:FYI This infanterie-Regiment raised 1701 (numbered 41 in 1769)

Inhabers
1701-04 Christian Ernst, Markgraf zu Brandenburg-Bayreuth und Kulmbach
from september 1704 Georg Wilhelm (son of Christian)

generally called the Bayreuth Regiment till 1765

standard is illustrated in the August Kuhn/Robert Hall book on Imperial Austrian infanterie. red & blue with the black eagle.
Me, too, I have found the flags in the book-CD by August Kuhm with the color tables by Robert Hall.
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Re: WSS - Austrians

Post by curassier » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:32 pm

Cold you please share any uniform details and a link to the Grenadier print ?
many thanks
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