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Gardes te Paard

Post by toggy » Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:05 pm

Just looking for any information regarding strength of this regiment at the Boyne.

McNally gives it as 145 in the Osprey book, but I would have thought it would have been more.

Also any links to uniform details would be appreciated.

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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by BobR » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:44 am

I have an interest in the Gardes te Paard (circa 1690's) as well and have been looking for some 28mm figures that would work. I could possibly do some conversion but not much. Any ideas? - Bob R
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Post by Captain of Dragoons » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:19 am

Here is a link for Dutch Regiments from the blog British Army Lineages

http://britisharmylineages.blogspot.ca/ ... 0regiments

There is some info on the Regiment Gardes te Paard and the Gardes du Corps van Zijne Majesteit. The Gardes du Corps on the English establishment was considered the 4th Troop, Life Guards.

I wonder is it possible that, one: the Gardes te Paard and the Gardes du Corps was simply mixed up, a Troop being smaller than a Regiment, I know in my case for a while I did not know they were two different units, or two: The Gardes te Paard only provided a detachment for William III in Ireland as his escort?

I believe the author of the Opsrey Boyne is/was a member of Fighting Talk.

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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by Churchill » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:25 am

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Post by barr7430 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:27 am

Ray, I think you have the Gardes te Paard mixed up with the Gardes du Corps. GtP were the 'Horse Guards' I think they were in blue with drop sleeve coats and it has been suggested in several sources, buff coloured hats. The Gardes du Corps van zijn Majesteit(I think that is correct) were a Lifeguard unit dressed very similar to the English Lifeguards in red faced blue.
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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by toggy » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:51 pm

Another name that keeps appearing in relation to the GdP is that of Lord Portland, the regiment seems to have also been known as Portland's.

McNally lists this seperately to the GdP in the OOB with a strength of 357.

So still unsure of total strength of the regiment.

Thanks for the uniform details guys, seen the buff coloured hat thing Barry, was unsure if it was genuine or not.

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Post by turrabear » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:20 pm

portlands horse was the name of the gardes te paard while in the service of england from 1688-1698 the colonel was hans willen bentinck earl ofportland . he was colonel from 5th june 1674. i've also noticed that michael mcnally list's portlands horse as a seperate regiment and also warfare sell a standard for portlands horse , so i wonder if this indeed may be a different regiment
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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by Churchill » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:14 pm

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Post by yar68 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:50 pm

This comes from an article in Wargames illustrated, and should help, sorry i can't remember which issue :roll:
Regarding Portland's Horse, as far as I've read they are indeed the Gardes te Paard.

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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by BobR » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:10 am

Ray, that page gives a very clear view of the uniform. I guess the beige coloured hats are correct according to these illustrations. - Bob R
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Post by yar68 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:56 pm

That's how I painted mine and you don't often get to paint a beige hat either!!! :shock:

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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by toggy » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:28 pm

Thanks for that Ray, just what I was after.

Just need to know how many beige hats to paint now?

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Post by barr7430 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:08 pm

Bob, just before you rush into painting them... give me a day and I'll show you something which might spark your imagination for the Gard te Paard :wink:
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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by turrabear » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:26 am

barr7430 wrote:Bob, just before you rush into painting them... give me a day and I'll show you something which might spark your imagination for the Gard te Paard :wink:
sounds interesting.
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Re: Gardes te Paard

Post by barr7430 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:42 pm

OK as promised Warfare Miniatures Gard te Paard to be found at this link:

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/gallery ... 7-385.html
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