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Gardes te Paard
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:05 pm
by toggy
Just looking for any information regarding strength of this regiment at the Boyne.
McNally gives it as 145 in the Osprey book, but I would have thought it would have been more.
Also any links to uniform details would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bob
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:44 am
by BobR
I have an interest in the Gardes te Paard (circa 1690's) as well and have been looking for some 28mm figures that would work. I could possibly do some conversion but not much. Any ideas? - Bob R
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:19 am
by Captain of Dragoons
Here is a link for Dutch Regiments from the blog British Army Lineages
http://britisharmylineages.blogspot.ca/ ... 0regiments
There is some info on the Regiment Gardes te Paard and the Gardes du Corps van Zijne Majesteit. The Gardes du Corps on the English establishment was considered the 4th Troop, Life Guards.
I wonder is it possible that, one: the Gardes te Paard and the Gardes du Corps was simply mixed up, a Troop being smaller than a Regiment, I know in my case for a while I did not know they were two different units, or two: The Gardes te Paard only provided a detachment for William III in Ireland as his escort?
I believe the author of the Opsrey Boyne is/was a member of Fighting Talk.
cheers
Edward
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:25 am
by Churchill
Ray.
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:27 am
by barr7430
Ray, I think you have the Gardes te Paard mixed up with the Gardes du Corps. GtP were the 'Horse Guards' I think they were in blue with drop sleeve coats and it has been suggested in several sources, buff coloured hats. The Gardes du Corps van zijn Majesteit(I think that is correct) were a Lifeguard unit dressed very similar to the English Lifeguards in red faced blue.
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:51 pm
by toggy
Another name that keeps appearing in relation to the GdP is that of Lord Portland, the regiment seems to have also been known as Portland's.
McNally lists this seperately to the GdP in the OOB with a strength of 357.
So still unsure of total strength of the regiment.
Thanks for the uniform details guys, seen the buff coloured hat thing Barry, was unsure if it was genuine or not.
Bob
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:20 pm
by turrabear
portlands horse was the name of the gardes te paard while in the service of england from 1688-1698 the colonel was hans willen bentinck earl ofportland . he was colonel from 5th june 1674. i've also noticed that michael mcnally list's portlands horse as a seperate regiment and also warfare sell a standard for portlands horse , so i wonder if this indeed may be a different regiment
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:14 pm
by Churchill
Ray.
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:50 pm
by yar68
This comes from an article in Wargames illustrated, and should help, sorry i can't remember which issue
Regarding Portland's Horse, as far as I've read they are indeed the Gardes te Paard.
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:10 am
by BobR
Ray, that page gives a very clear view of the uniform. I guess the beige coloured hats are correct according to these illustrations. - Bob R
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:56 pm
by yar68
That's how I painted mine and you don't often get to paint a beige hat either!!!
More pics here
http://onelover-ray.blogspot.co.uk/sear ... Te%20Paard
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:28 pm
by toggy
Thanks for that Ray, just what I was after.
Just need to know how many beige hats to paint now?
Bob
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:08 pm
by barr7430
Bob, just before you rush into painting them... give me a day and I'll show you something which might spark your imagination for the Gard te Paard
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:26 am
by turrabear
barr7430 wrote:Bob, just before you rush into painting them... give me a day and I'll show you something which might spark your imagination for the Gard te Paard
sounds interesting.
Re: Gardes te Paard
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:42 pm
by barr7430
OK as promised Warfare Miniatures Gard te Paard to be found at this link:
http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/gallery ... 7-385.html