louis xiv 1690ish drummers

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louis xiv 1690ish drummers

Post by cantbeatdavy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:08 pm

hi all
just wondering did the french foot drummers around this time have reversed uniform colours,or the same uniform colour as the rest of the regiment?
and while we are here the same question for the horse troops?
hope that makes sense.
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Re: louis xiv 1690ish drummers

Post by Rohan Wilmott » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:32 pm

Hello, John.

Generally, French infantry drummers wore Royal livery in the Royal regiments & those of the named provinces and the remainder wore the livery of their colonel proprietor.The Royal livery was Blue coat with red cuffs & linings and royal livery lace which is best described as a white chain pattern on a red lace background. Examples of livery coats are given in Charles S Grant's book on the "Uniforms of Marlborough's Wars Vol 1" published by Partizan Press and excellent detail (prob best source in English) is Robert Hall's book "Flags & Uniforms of the French Infantry under Louis XIV 1688-1714" available through the Pike & shot Society. I believe it may be on CD also from Baccus & On Military Matters, but not sure of this.
So, to get you going -
Nettancourt - green coat with white chain pattern on blue lace
La Reine red coat with white chain pattern on Blue background lace
Lyonnais - green coat with gold chain pattern on aurore background lace
Bourbon - chamois yellow coat with red lace, red sleeves & cuffs with white lace, red stockings
Dorington - Grant says orange coat & Hall gives Blue coat & breeches with red cuffs, aurore coat lace & ligh blue waistcoat with white stockings
Montboissier(at Blenheim) - Blue coat, waistcoat & breeches with red cuffs & white stockings & no lace

and Hall gives a lot, lot more.

In fact, if you intend painting a French Army, the Robert Hall Uniform books/CD's are an indispensible item.

Information on the earlier armies, ie 1690's, seems rather harder to find than a little later, but Hall does cover the period with what is available. Since there is probably more unknown then known, creative, historical speculation must fill the gaps. (take a look at Churchill's splendid & learned thread on the Blenheim OOB to get an idea about this aspect of our hobby).

Cheers, Rohan.
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Post by cantbeatdavy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:29 pm

thanks Rohan for all the info
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Post by Redmist1122 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:23 am

To add,
I believe Mark Allen did a whole series on this period, 1690, especially the French in Wargames Illustrated. I have the CD's from 1 -200, and there quite a few articles with color schemes, flags and plates.
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Re: louis xiv 1690ish drummers

Post by cantbeatdavy » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:52 pm

funny i was just gona ask ... are these both the same??
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