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by Oireas » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:45 pm
HI Guys new to forum but I noticed a number issues on the questions of Jacobite uniforms. Here is what I know:
French clothe was White (grismiel) e.g Lrd Antrims used this as their coat colour but were cuffed red, red trousers, Waistcoat and sock (nickname 'Red Shanks') Clares (O'Brians) Red faced Yellow, Mountcashels (McCarthy) Red faced forest Green with taped button -. Louths Rgt, White faced tawny, Gordon O'Neill Red faced red, Bellews Red faced tawny. French cloth is white but turned grey over time due to environmental conditions such as dirt, sweat, powder and smoke. Hugenot Rgt seem from my sources to be dressed grey faced grey with some cuff colours such as yellow, purple etc. I also notice that the crowns and Jacobite harp are incorect in many of the flags used for the wargaming, the Maid of Ireland emblem is not a Jacobite cypher it is something that comes in post William III. All troops in Jacobite army are armed and equipped French style post siege of Derry, prior to this it is English. Armed with Matchlocks and equipped with Bandoliers throughout. in 1698 there is an image of a corporal in Mountcashels in France armed with a Matchlock and French Cartridge bag(similar to WSS style) but it would seem Matchlocks are standard right up until 1702 in the Irish brigade. Anyway thats my two pence worth I hope it is of assistance to you guys. Forgot to mention the source for the Yellow in O Briens is from an archaic source where the author did not want to admit Irish wore red coats also his main source is a misintepretation of an original manuscript. 'O'Briens clothes were faced yellow but it does list the Regiments with Red Coats and they are there in that list! Also Antrims are said to be in White and Blue again this numpty does not read the sources correctly and produced these in the 1940 cigarette cards also the irish Sword magazine and his ancestors although proven to be incorrect refuse to accept it as being wrong. For example he says the Danish life Guard wore an orange uniform!!!! yet when research was done it is actually Straw coloured with Orange /Tawny facings and clothing. So guys be careful the best sources are Robert Hall and Sean O Brogain for Irish flags and uniforms. Regards Tomás.